Principal or Agent – Revenue or Liability?
Last update: July 2023
A few weeks ago I published an article about top 3 dilemmas with your auditors and I wrote the story about a company selling mobile phone credits via its machines.
I explained that the company served as a medium of sale and was not responsible for providing telecom services to the end users, but still this company accounted the revenues on the gross basis.
That was totally wrong.
I received a lot of e-mails asking me to write more about it, because sometimes we are not so sure whether the company should account the revenue on the gross or net basis.
In other words – are you acting as an agent or as a principal?
Let’s take a look.
What do the rules say?
Agent-principal relationships are governed by the standard IFRS 15 Revenue from Contracts with Customers.
IFRS 15 is pretty clear and states that you should NOT include the amounts collected on behalf of others into your revenue, because they are not increasing your equity.
Why?
Well, because you keep only the commission and transfer the rest to the entity responsible for that service, or a principal.
Now, this rule seems pretty simple.
But, its practical application can give us a hard time, because sometimes it’s extremely difficult and demanding to assess properly and conclude correctly whether we are an agent or a principal.
Basically, you are an agent if your responsibility is limited to arranging or mediating the provision of goods or services for another party.
Thus, you are NOT responsible for the provision of these goods or services – another party is.
I tried to illustrate it in the following scheme:
The standard IFRS 15 gives us a guidance that you can use for your own assessment.
To sum it up shortly (but not exhaustively, you need to look directly to the standard if interested), you are acting as a principal when:
- You are responsible for a service or a good.
So, it’s you who guarantees quality of a good/service and it’s you who is responsible for guarantee repairs, any corrections/modifications, or post-delivery service, as examples. - It’s YOU who bears an inventory risk.
For example – if your goods are stored in some warehouse and burglars go and grab them, it’s your damage – and this applies even when the goods are stored in the warehouse of another entity.
Or, you are going to deal with any unsold and obsolete inventory (=you carry the losses). - It’s YOU who establishes prices for the goods or services.
If you can influence or set the price of the goods/services, either directly or indirectly, then it indicates you’re a principal.
IFRS 15 adds that an agent gets its remuneration in the form of a commission.
Let me stress here that these are just indicators and they can be met individually or in combination.
Sometimes, one of them is met and the other one is not met – in a similar situation you should really think carefully whether significant risks and rewards of ownership, or control over goods or services was transferred or not.
It’s not so easy and in reality it can happen that 2 almost the same transactions are treated in a different way.
Let me give you a couple of examples to illustrate.
Example #1 – Goods
GreatGear is a shop selling bicycles, both new and used. There are 2 main selling procedures:
- New bikes
GreatGear buys new bikes from their manufacturers. Once the bikes are bought, they are delivered to GreatGear’s warehouse or store and are offered to the end customers.
Normally, GreatGear pays for these bikes within 30 days from their delivery to the suppliers.
The bikes remain in the GreatGear’s store or warehouse until they are sold. As the value of bike inventories is quite high, GreatGear took an insurance policy to cover all risks.
It’s GreatGear who sets the price of the new bikes and decides about any discounts or promotions.
New bikes come with 2-year guarantee for the main parts. It’s a producer who makes guarantee repairs, but it’s GreatGear who deals with the end customer and provides post-delivery support.
- Used bikes
GreatGear gets the used bikes from their previous owners (let’s call them “sellers”). The seller brings a bike to GreatGear’s store and leaves it there to offer them to customers. At that point, seller does not get any cash.
Selling prices of the used bikes are usually set by the seller, but GreatGear has the right to adjust the price by pre-approved percentage and seller must be informed about the adjustment.
When GreatGear sells the bike to the new customer, he informs the seller about the transaction. The seller visit GreatGear’s store and gets 90% of revenue from the sale of his used bike (remaining 10% is for GreatGear).
When the bike is not sold within 180 days, seller must take it back from GreatGear.
Used bikes are also covered by the same insurance policy as the new bikes. The sellers do not pay any insurance premium – instead, it is included in the remuneration for the GreatGear (10% of selling price).
Used bikes do not come with any guarantee whatsoever.
How should GreatGear recognize revenues from sales of new and used bikes?
Solution #1- Goods
- New bikes
Now, we should assess the criteria to determine whether GreatGear acts as an agent or as a principal.
The primary question here is whether all, or at least majority of risks and rewards of ownership of the new bikes were transferred to GreatGear or not. In line with IFRS 15 we examine whether control over new bikes was transferred.
It seems yes, because:
- Inventory risk sits clearly with GreatGear – if something happens to bikes, it’s GreatGear’s loss. That’s also why GreatGear took an insurance policy.
- Producers are no more involved in control of new bikes, as it’s GreatGear who sets prices, provides post-delivery service, etc.
Yes, the producers make guarantee repairs and for that purpose, they probably recognize some provision based on past statistics, but it only means that minor risks were retained by the producers. It does NOT mean that producers retained control over the bikes. - Customer credit risk is probably out of question here, as we may reasonably assume that end customers pay for the bikes immediately when taking them from the store.
Conclusion – GreatGear accounts for the revenue from sale of bikes in gross amounts as it acts as a principal.
Let’s say GreatGear bought the new bike from a producer for CU 100 and sold it for CU 130.
The accounting treatment of the sale is:
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Debit Cash: CU 130
-
Credit Revenue from goods sold: CU 130
Plus, GreatGear must recognize cost of goods sold:
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Debit Cost of sales: CU 100
-
Credit Inventories: CU 100
- Used bikes
The things are different at used bikes because clearly, it seems that not all the risks and rewards of ownership / control were transferred to GreatGear when sellers brought their used bike to the store.
Let’s assess the agent/principal criteria:
- Here, it’s difficult to say who is responsible for the goods sold, as there is no guarantee and nothing said about the post-delivery service, but we can assume that GreatGear would not take any responsibility (of course, in reality, it’s necessary to examine it).
- Inventory risk is borne by the sellers. The reason is that the bikes are returned to sellers if not sold. Also, bikes are insured, but sellers pay for the insurance within the remuneration to GreatGear.
- Sellers have the major word when setting the prices.
- Again, customer credit risk is out of question here as customers pay cash.
Conclusion – GreatGear accounts for the sale from used bikes as for the “agency” transaction – i.e. in net amounts, as it acts as an agent.Let’s say that the used bike was sold for CU 100 to the end customer, GreatGear paid CU 90 to the seller and kept CU 10 for itself.
Journal entry is:
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Debit Cash: CU 100
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Credit Payables to sellers: CU 90
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Credit Revenue from commission: CU 10
- Who has the primary responsibility for providing the services to customer? Or, who is responsible for a service being acceptable or wanted by the customer?
- Who sets the prices here?
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Debit Cash: CU 1.00
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Credit Payables to artists: CU 0.60
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Credit Revenue from sale of songs (commission): CU 0.40
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Debit Cash: CU 1.00
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Credit Revenue from sale of songs (commission): CU 1.00
- Financial rations might be affected;
- Bank covenants dependent on the revenues from sales might be affected;
- Bonuses to management calculated based on the sales revenue might be affected; and you can go on.
Example #2 – Services
For the second example, I picked the one asked by my reader (thanks, B.K., for this excellent question!) after I published an article about auditors.
Plus, I’m adding something more to the original question to explain a bit more. Let me quote:
“There is a company (let’s call it Songer) whose main activity is selling artist songs through Internet (if you want to download an artist song you have to enter through their web site and you download).
The contract between an artist and Songer is that when the end user downloads a song for CU 1, then an artist gets CU 0.60 and the company keeps CU 0.40.
How should Songer record its revenue?”
Let me add to this: Would the situation change if Songer paid to artists to compose and produce songs and music exclusively for Songer?
This is a very classical issue for telecom operators, too, because they sell lots of applications, music and other files together with their monthly pre-paid plans or on “pay-as-you-go” basis.
So what to do?
It depends on the circumstances of a specific transaction. Here again, we need to assess agent/principal criteria to make appropriate conclusion.
Inventory risk is out of question for the services and customer credit risk will not be that high as the customers actually pay before they can download the song.
So we need to focus on 2 things here:
The answer depends on what the content is.
If Songer sells music created by independent artists and these songs are available elsewhere, then Songer is only a medium or a platform for distributing these services and not their creator.
In other words, Songer is not primarily responsible for these services and is responsible only for their delivery.
In this case, Songer would account for the revenue on the net basis (acting as an agent):
If Songer sells music or other files created exclusively for the brand “Songer” by other artists and these products are not available elsewhere, then the things are different.
In this case, Songer needs to account for the revenue on the gross basis (acting as the principal):
In this case, remuneration to artists is accounted in line with the agreement with them (e.g. as a fixed fee for song creation, or as a percentage of sales as shown above at bikes’ example).
Why does it matter?
You might ask: Why do we care whether it’s gross or net – the profit or loss impact is still the same!
Yes, you are right, in both cases, the profit or loss effect is the same.
However, it matters a lot due to other financial issues and indicators, such as:
If you experienced the similar situation and you’d like to share it with others, please do so in the comment right below this article. Thank you!
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How to account for Contract Sales Organization (“CSO”) arrangement, which is common in pharmaceutical industry, under IFRS 15’s principal vs. agent?
In consolidation situation for consolidated financials, can a subsidiary who is otherwise acting as a principal be termed as agent since all risks are residing inside the group?
That depends on the counterparty, but in general, I cannot think of such a situation.
If a subsidiary is a principal and an agent is the company outside the group, then a subsidiary is still a principal, thus the group is a principal.
If a subsidiary is a principal and an agent is a related company inside the group, then the whole transaction is eliminated on consolidation.
Hello, Thanks for great article. I have question about agent accounting treatment about inventory, What journal entries must be posted, when agent receives sellers bikes? And should it recognize accounts receivables when transferring bikes to the final costumer?
You have not touched on treatment of indirect tax on sales made by the agent. The agent is responsible for its collection and onward remittance to government.
And what specifically should I tackle? If that’s refundable from the government, then it will be cleared between whatever party and government.
Dears,
I have a distribution service agreement with manufacturing company that will be entering in to direct supply agreement with a third-party company.
I’m responsible for providing a service list that includes regulatory requirements that allow the manufacturing company to sell its product inside KSA and other services such as pharmacovigilance, medical education, and market access services, all of which are ongoing processes during contract periods of three years.
According to these services, the manufacturing company will pay USD 3per unit for products purchased from the manufacturing company and delivered to a third party company.
My question here is, when can I recognize revenue? And I have deferred part of the revenue to cover other services during contract periods, and kindly note all of these services included in the price of USD 3, and I’m an agent in this contract.
Ifrs 16 liability on initial recognition you PV future lease payments – assuming lease payments are paid when due.
In subsequent measurement, you discover that lease payments are missed. How is the liability at year-end measured?
Based on original amortised table or the updated with actual payments made?
That depends on the solution you take. If you do not change the schedule with the lessee, then you simply book the interest earned for the specific period as debit lease receivable/credit interest income, I recommend keeping lease receivable overdue separately from the “regular” net investment in the lease. And then – well, you have IFRS 9 and the expected credit loss rules, just bear in mind that they apply to the lease receivables under IFRS 16, too!
Good day
Please give guidance
We provide payroll processing services to customers, they can place the resource themselves and we do payroll service or we can place him as well. they are responsible for the resource output and performance of duties. we can get involved in diciplinaries etc. (handling the HRS services), however we charge min a 3% fee on the salary of these resources as our fee for the processing of apyrolls. we are accunting for this as agent at tis point, however should we not account as principle? not sure?
Really great job from a great talent. May the Almighty Mighty bless you abundantly for this wonderful education. You are really making Accounting simple for the entire being. Bless up!!
Hi Silvia,
Great job simplifying a complicated topic.
I am currently facing an issue in similar indirect channel model.
The question is as part of the contract can the agent impost any pricing controls on the principal party in order to protect his competitive edge or does this negate the purpose of the agreement?
I would be thankful if you can recommend any possible solution.
Thank you,
Wassim
Hi Silvia!
Happy to discover your website and great articles. A lot of material to read and analyze, that`s great!
Regarding principal & agent, I am wondering: at what extend the same principles can be applied to leasing companies that lease their own assets to clients. Some costs are incurred/recharged to clients during the lease agreement lifecycle (e.g. insurance, taxes, etc.) or even after Termination of the lease (recovery costs, repairs, cleaning, court claims, etc..). Is it also covered by IFRS15 or I have to look into others too? Can those costs be treated fully as agent costs, any hints to have a look at?
Thank You a lot!
Svetlana
Related to IFRS 15, I am practically facing a problem in my place of work, which is a hospital. With full consent of Super-specialist doctors- (ssd), and Hospital Management (hm), ssd render services on a part-time basis at a fee mutually agreed. hm adds a commission to this and clients are charged the higher fee fixed by hm. The question is: Can the amount payable to ssd be treated as direct cost against the amount invoiced to hm clients – which is the agreed price payable to ssd + hm share? I have assumed Agency relationship.
currently I audited a client of same nature which invoice the customer and pass entry but entry is receivable from cutomer Dr and payables to parent CR.
but parent company give grant to subsidary only to the extent of expenditure the sub incured .
now how can it can be presneted as grant and exp are the same
Hello Silvia,
what would be the accounting treatment for the this?
An entity takes control over an asset base on a court order (in a legal suit) and it also collects the rent associated with the ceased property, it does not use this rent collected in its operations. The money sits in its account until another subsequent court order instructs the entity to have both the property and the rent collected to be returned.
Can this rent collected be termed as revenue for the Entity and also can the ceased property be incorporated its books ?
THank
Amazing summary! Love IFRS box for the simplifying extremely complex topics in only a few minutes. Thank you!
If the company sell the stock to distributor and distributor is the principal. Can we actually still holding inventory in the company with Principal distribution model?
Dear Silvia
Thanks for this article
Can you please share your view on the illustrations below:
1. Company A request Company B to source for suppliers to provide services to it
2. Company B obtain invoices from suppliers for these services
3. Company B passes the suppliers’ invoices plus its own agreed commission/fee to company A
4. Company A pays Company B by deducting withholding tax on the total invoice amount (which included suppliers’ invoice) and also pays VAT on total invoiced amount
5. From 4 above, the withholding tax and deducted or VAT paid was used to gross up by the tax authority to arrive at Company’s B expected revenue (which in my own view is not the case).
6. Company B was able to persuade the tax authority that its revenue was ONLY the commission but the tax authority request that the gross invoiced amount should be presented as revenue with the associated costs (suppliers’ invoices) in the financial statements
7. Because the tax authority accepted company B’s explanation, it went ahead to present the revenue at this gross amount
From my understanding and the contract terms, Company B is an agent of Company A.
Should convenience /understanding reached with the tax authority by Company B override the requirement of IFRS 15 on principal vs agent relationship by presenting the total invoice value as gross revenue instead of its commission as revenue?
Dear Siliva,
thanks for your pages.
Could you please help me with this example?
Principal sells products (honey and peat) to Agent. Principal knows that demand for honey is going to be enough. Demand for honey is going to be bad. If Agent doesn’t sell the peat, it can bring it back to the Principal. From every sold peat receives the Agent 20 % commission.
30th August Principal made delivery of 1 000 jars of honey (100 CZK/jar) and 80 jars of peat (register price 80 CZK/jar). All of it was invoiced.
Agent sold during September 780 jars of honey (150 CZK/jar) and 17 jars of peat (100 CZK/jar).
Could you please tell me revenues for Principal and Agent?
Many thanks for your response
May you please assist. Does this assessment determine whether the revenue should be recognised over time or at a point in time? In the service industry where services are provided over a period of more than 1 year and we conclude that the entity is a principal, does that mean revenue should be spread over the duration on the contract?
Hi Tanaka,
no, it does not determine whether over time or at the point of time. It only determines whether gross or net. Once you determine gross or net, only then you need to assess whether over time or at the point of time, but it is totally different consideration. If it is the repeating service, then in most cases the revenue is recognized over time, because in most cases customer consumes the services as the entity provides it. S.
Company A (Parent Company) has an agreement with Company B (Subsidiary Company) under which Company B has to provide services to Company A. Company A is situated in Australia whereas Company B is situated in India. Company B provides maintenance services to Company A’s customers in India. Company B does not any have any contract or agreement with Company A’s customer. If any spare parts are required for giving services to Company A’s customer, then Company A provides the spare parts. Company B is given cost + 15% mark up for providing services to company A’s customer.
Please help me to understand, whether company B is acting as an agent of company A or not.
Thanks in advance.
Entity A enters into a management agreement with Customer B to provide lawn maintenance services, including fertilization, mowing and trimming, and periodic seeding. Entity A does not provide lawn maintenance services itself; rather, it contracts with third-party service providers for each aspect of the lawn maintenance service. Entity A and Customer B have agreed on a single price for the lawn maintenance service.
Entity A separately enters into contracts with third-party service providers and directs those service providers to perform each aspect of the lawn maintenance services. Once A enters into contracts with the third-party service providers, it can direct those service providers to perform services for any number of its customers.
Even though A is not performing the services, it controls the right to the services by directing specific lawn maintenance service providers to perform each aspect of the lawn maintenance services. Because A controls the right to the services, A concludes that it is acting as the principal.
From the above illustration, does it mean that third party service providers are acting as agent??
Dear Silvia,
Many thanks for providing such in depth knowledge on IFRS related issues. I work for a recruitment company where we hire employees on customers request and all the salaries and employee related expenses are borne by us and later charged to the customer including margin. Employee salaries do not fit in any of the categories you mentioned above and it is a little difficult for me to analyse whether it falls under and agency or a principal. Will highly appreciate if you can please provide your valuable input in this regards.
Hi Silvia, How to account for license sale (ex. sale of SAP or Oracle license) to end customer with say margin of 5%. As per the article above, it should be accounted as agency commission as performance obligation is with licencor (say SAP or Oracle) and meets all the requirement for agency transaction except for “Credit Risk”.
In example 2:
Is there any effect on recognition if the selling price to final customer is negotiated by both the principle and the agent ?
Regards
Hi Silvia,
Have a query on Principal Vs Agent relationship. A shipping company, who owns ships and containers have agency companies in many countires. The work of Agency companies are to arrange sales booking and help customers of the shipping in their trade. Agency companies are cost-plus companies.
There are 3 type of payments done by agency companies i.e. those expense which they charge to shipping company without mark-up, Expenses on which mark-up is charged to shipping company and those which are not recovered from shipping company.
Does this cost on which mark up is given shall be netted-off from the revenue and net mark-up amount shall be shown as revenue. Or the Revenue will be total amount i.e. Cost + Markup.
Regards,
Ankur.
Hi Silvia,
I appreciate you help in simplifying the IFRS’s to the world.
I have a scenario whereby a company is established to provide online education/short courses. The company has arrangements with universities under which the company provides a platform for education and the universities deliver the content required for learning. They have a revenue sharing agreement in which collected amounts for tuition fees are shared 50:50.
Is there an agency/principal relationship in this regard.
Thank you.
Regards,
Wilson
Hi Silvia,
Thanks for your great guidance and clear explanation on IFRS15. I have a confusing situation and hope that I can get some guidance here.
We are in the smelting business where we purchase the raw material from the supplier to process into metal. After processing we sell the metal to the end user on behalf of the supplier. The supplier sets the selling price for the metal. We will earn smelting charges. However, we have the inventory risk when the raw materials and metal are in our warehouse before selling it to the end user. Is our transaction consider as an Agent?
Accounting entries:
Purchase 80% raw material from supplier: Dr.Purchase 100
Cr. Supplier 100
Sales of metal (price set by supplier) Dr. AR 150
Dr. COGS 100
Cr. Sale 150
Cr. Stock 100
Smelting charges : Dr. Supplier 50
Cr. Smelting revenue 50
Are the accounting entries correct or we just recognise smelting revenue and do not need to pass through COGS?
Thanks in advance for your time and guidance.
Best Regards,
Casandra.
Hi Silvia,
Thanks for your brilliant knowledge on IFRS. You are awesome and great.
I have one question from you regarding telecom sector. As, I am working as an accountant and this is my first job and I am an ACCA. The company is established 1 year before and wholly owned subsidiary (let say, XYZ) of the company (let say, ABC). Now they are going to implement IFRS, as the parent company already finished the project of implementing IFRS. Now we have to complete the job.
The question arises of being an AGENT or PRINCIPAL.
The short Summary is XYZ responsible for goods and services, inventory risks, establishes prices and Customer Credit risks. So, It is a Principal, Am I Right ?
But the network that XYZ is using is the parent company’s network. (Please be noted that parent company which is the ABC is owned by the government as well). However, each revenue earned by XYZ are the gross amount from which some percentage (let say 70%) should be paid to the parent ABC and it is mentioned in the agreement as well. So, as per this concept it is an Agent, AM I RIGHT?
Please can you guide me in this matter.
Is XYZ is an Agent or a Principal ??
Hi Silvia,
Thanks for your brilliant knowledge on IFRS. You are awesome and great.
I have one question from you regarding telecom sector. As, I am working as an accountant and this is my first job and I am an ACCA. The company is established 1 year before and wholly owned subsidiary (let say, XYZ) of the company (let say, ABC). Now they are going to implement IFRS, as the parent company already finished the project of implementing IFRS. Now we have to complete the job.
The question arises of being an AGENT or PRINCIPAL.
The short Summary is XYZ responsible for goods and services, inventory risks, establishes prices and Customer Credit risks. So, It is a Principal, Am I Right ?
But the network that XYZ is using is the parent company’s network. (Please be noted that parent company which is the ABC is owned by the government as well). However, each revenue earned by XYZ are the gross amount from which some percentage (let say 70%) should be paid to the parent ABC and it is mentioned in the agreement as well. So, as per this concept it is an Agent, AM I RIGHT?
Please can you guide me in this matter.
Confused !!! it is an Agent or a Principal ???
Thank you Silvia, very
Helpful !
Hi Silvia,
My company provides gas storage services to a only one client for the 100% of the capacity of our tanks. Due to changes in law, Now I have a second cliente that uses capacity that my first client does not use.
According to the law, the net amount of revenues from my second client less certain expenses must be returned to my first client.
Do you think I am the agent?… should I net revenues and expenses? The remaining amount is an income from operation?
Thanks in advance for Your help!
Hi Sagrario,
no, I don’t think you’re the agent because it’s you who is responsible for providing gas storage service.
As for the revenues – I would definitely deduct the amount returned to the first client from the revenues and not treat it as expenses. S.
Hi Silvia,
A real estate company, which rents out units to different tenants, charges its own rate on utility and pays separately (at the rate set by the utility company) when it is invoiced by the utility company.
One could arguably say that it is a principal relationship – it sets its own rate, it bears credit risk. It can also be agent relationship – the main provider of the utility is the utility company. For example, utility bill is $50 , the real estate company charges $65. How do you recognize revenue, and expense?
If it’s a principal relationship, is the $50 a utility expense? but clearly, this is not fair representation because it inflates the real estate company’s utility expense. Or would this be cost of goods solds?
Thank you,
Jessie
Hi Jessie,
every single situation needs to be assessed carefully and in every single situation, other indicators are more important. What matters is WHO has control of goods/service BEFORE their transfer. It’s quite difficult to set in the case of services, but here’s another consideration:
In this specific case, you need to ask: Can tenants buy utilities separately from the rent? Can they rent an apartment without utilities and pay for utilities from other supplier? If no, but tenants can buy only a package (apartment including utilities), it means that utilities are NOT distinct from the rent and therefore, you need to assess the contract as a whole, or as a bundle. In this case, it’s quite clear that the real estate company is a principal, because it owns the apartments. So, utility bill of $50 is a cost of goods/services sold and $65 is included within revenues from the rent of apartments. S.
Hi Silvia, I have a question that maybe goea a bit of topic, but still relates to agency fees. So, in this situation company sells hotel and earns income, as the proceeds are higher of carrying value. Company used an agency to help them with the sale and now received an invoice for their service. How should this be booked – 1. as reduction of income or 2. as normal OPEX (service cost)?I am looking in IAS 18, but I don’t find anything on this. Would be grateful for your input and thoughts…
Dear Bales, this is a typical selling cost. You should take them into account when calculating gain on disposal of a hotel, so no separate presentation. Gain on disposal = net selling proceeds (income LESS selling cost) less carrying amount. S.
You made it simpler than I was expecting. Thanks Sylvia
Hi,
thanks for the article, extremely helpful.
We run an online marketplace selling goods on behalf of multiple sellers.
– we list goods at the retail price set by the sellers
– we collect payments upfront from customers as the transaction happens
– we send a courier to pick up goods from sellers and deliver straight to customers
– at the end of the month we invoice the comission to the sellers and release the owed amount – the commission
I account only the net revenue (comissions), the rest i record in a short term liability account. Does it make sense? Thanks!
Dear Nic,
yes, in my opinion, that makes perfect sense. S.
Thanks Nic! Thanks Silvia, I have a clear understanding about how it would be done accountingwise. The thing is that keeping track on all the outgoing vouchers and incoming invoices and matching the amounts on a ‘supsense account’ and taking the right comission revenue on the right time somewhere in future, consumes time. I would like to see the administration automated as much as possible and therefor hoping to have a straight forward way of accounting instead of using a suspense account in where to match the 80% for each booking.
Seen from this point of view, I am curious how you are keeping track of the process “at the end of the month we invoice the comission to the sellers and release the owed amount – the commission”. The problem is that in our situation (i) there is more time in between point of transaction and the moment we are allowed to recognize the revenue, and (ii) more time between collecting payments upfront and time to pay the sellers. (iii) furthermore there will be 2 or 3 payments to a seller for one item sold.
I do not want to make it too complex. Any advise on those points?
Would be highly appreciated. Thanks!
Dear Joost,
I think this discussion is going much beyond what’s covered in the article and in IFRS 15 itself. See, I gave you my opinion about how it should be and that’s the task of your technical/accounting department to make it right. Maybe you should hire external consultants to help you out. I don’t want to sound harsh, but really – I can express my opinion about keeping up with the standards and you should make technical improvements. Having that said – you can technically perform process as you like, as soon as you report correct NET numbers in your financial statements and your auditors can verify it. S.
Hi Silvia, Thanks for you explanation.
In addition: if it is not totally clear what the commission amount will be, can we account on the Full turnover en full Cost of Sales and lable the result as the commission? By this we register 100% revenue and 80% Cost of Sales in the profit and loss. The result Revenue minus costs, we will take that amount as commission revenue in the annual report.
Is this method of commission registration allowed? Or do we need to register it accurate and MUST we use a supsense account (credit & debit liability account) to match?
Reason for asking: setting up such an accounting structure requires much more manual work!
Note: this apart from the commission (revenue) timing issue.
Note; we will keep track of a possitive commission in a different transaction system.
Dear Joost,
no, you should not account like this. The reason is that as you are acting as an agent, 100% of revenue and 80% of costs are NOT yours. Only 20% commission belongs to you and only that can be presented in profit or loss. It does not matter that your net profit will be stated correctly – you CANNOT overstate neither your revenues nor your expenses.
I can only imagine if you account for both 100% revenue and 80% to the same account and present it as 1 line item in your financial statements – netted off.
S.
Hi Silvia, In case you are acting as an online travel agency? Typcial an agent model. When are you accounting your sales / commission? Once you are receiving the invoice from the service tour operator in where commission is taken into account or when your customer is paying the money?
Customer is paying 100%
And you will receive invoice from the actual party who is delivering the service. Invoice is shown like: 100% – xx% commission = yy% to pay.
In which booking are you registering the commission?
Thanks in advance for your reply!
Hi Joost,
this depends on the terms of the contract, but in general, you should recognize revenue when the service was provided. Your service is “agency” or “mediation” service, not the travel service itself. If you are not responsible for the travel services, then you should recognize commission when you have the right to get it. In other words, you need to determine the point at which your obligation to provide a service (“performance obligation”) is satisfied. Is it at the time when the customer pays you? Or is it at the time when the tour actually happened and the customer cannot demand the money back? It depends on your agreement with the tour operator.
Also, let me remind you, that you should not book 100% as revenue and 100%-commission as cost. You should book only commission as the revenue and the other amounts as receivables/payables (your revenue is not 100%, just the commission). S.
Hi Silvia, thanks for your reply. Indeed we need to take only the commission as revenue at the date the trip starts. The question is in which booking I have to split the commission from the total amount; In the debit booking to our clients or in the credit booking from the tour operator (serivce provider)?
(i) At the moment of debit booking: Accounts receivalbe 100 (D), suspence account 80 (C), Deferred revenue 20 (C)
or:
(ii) At the moment of credit booking: Accounts payable 80 (C), Deferred revenue 20 (C), suspence account 100 (D).
Your advise is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Dear Joost,
you need to account for the revenue from the commission when you have the right to receive it. So let’s say you sell for CU 100, you keep your commission of 20 and you pay 80 to tour operators. Then your booking should be:
– sale to a customer: Debit A/R 100, Credit Liability to tour operators (suspense as you named it) 80, Credit Commission revenue 20 (if this is the moment when you satisfied performance obligation).
– payment to a tour operator: Debit Liability to tour operators 80, Credit Cash/bank account 80.
If you pay the full amount of 100 to tour operators, and then they pay you the commission, then of course it looks differently. S.
Thank you Silvia. It’s was really helpful.
Thanks for the clarification
… I appreciate it… Looking forward for more
“Conclusion – GreatGear accounts for the sale from new bikes as for the “agency” transaction – i.e. in net amounts, as it acts as an agent.”
This should read sale from used bikes and not new bikes
Thank you for the correction – agreed!
Hi silvia, i work as internal auditor at port company in Indonesia. In providing service to shipping line, there are two type service providers work at our port, 1. our own operator and 2. third party who operate as our agent at port. Company and third party have an cooperation agreement, with income share 60:40. The cost of damage claim, uncollectible AR are shared between company and the third party. Base on those conditions, do you think IFRS 9 is applicable to my company? Thanks
Yulias,
are you sure you ask me about IFRS 9 Financial Instruments? In general it applies to every single company having trade receivables and cash, but I’m not sure you wanted to know this. Please clarify your question. S.
Sorry, i mean IFRS 15 Revenue from contracts with customer. My company is port service company, we own port, but the operation of service is performed by third party, with revenue sharing from port service is 60:40. Are we as an principal or as an agent? Should we recognize the share on gross or net? Thanks
Sorry,I meant IFRS 15 (and IAS 18), lets refer to your last picture. In my case, my company has port (as an pricipal), and third party (as an agent) who operate port service on behalf of our company, to end customer (shipping line). In your case, customer pays to agent, but in my case, customer pays in full to our company, then the proceed is shared 60:40 between my company (principal) and third party (agent). When customer pay in full, should we recognize revenue at full amount or just our proportion amount (60%)? Thanks
Hi Silvia,
The journal entry for the Used Bikes should be
Debit: Cash 100
Credit: Customer 90
Credit: Revenue 10
And futher,
Debit: Customer 90
Credit: Cash 90
Is it so??
Hmmm, I don’t think so… Who is your Customer here? The one that takes the used bike?
The correct entry is above in the article. S.
No, the customer is the meant by the seller or amount payable to the seller where you have credited 90. We have to pay his amount 90 to the payable of the seller. Because 90% he is taking. And we need not record the 100 as our revenue would only be 10 from the commission.
Isn’t it written in the article above?
Thank you Silvia,I must confess that I have acquired more knowledge by this.
God bless you.
Silva, I am particularly thrilled at the simplicity of the examples and illustrations. This is ‘Accounting and IFRS Made simple’. Looking forward to receiving more from you.
Nice work Silva, Always simple and straight to the point. Please how do we recognise revenue from construction contract under IFRS 15.
Hi, Christian, thank you! For IFRS 15, please browse this website, I have posted more articles on the topic, for example this one may help. S.
Sylvia, you are a blessing. Its amazing how you continuously find ways to make our lives as aspiring Accountants simpler.
Looking forward to your next article.
Hands up to you!!
Wow, thank you, I’m flattered! 🙂
This is awesome. I need my students to be able to read this. Can I embed this url and others from your site on my site so my students can read up as part of class notes? Silvia, this is great work. Thank you.
Thank you Femi, I’m glad to help your students, and sure, just embed and give link! May I see your website? I’m curious about how teachers support their students. Thank you! S.
Hi Silvia
A services company that receives PO’s from clients. The PO ususally has subsections, cost of execution, and a service fee. The cost say CU100 are usually made up of sub-contractible items. Although some of the sub-contractible items are fully handled by the service provider, and not sub-contracted. Then a service fee, say CU15.
Should they recognise revenue, net or gross?
BR
Toyin
Hi Toyin,
this is exactly the situation when you need to assess 4 criteria described above in the article. Who is primary responsible for sub-contracted parts? Can they be separated from the remaining parts or not?
I remember that at some companies we had a long discussion whether they act as an agent or a principal, so I can’t really respond clearly without looking at specifics and assessing these aspects. Best! S.
Hi Silvia
I think the service provider is responsible because they have to fulfill the PO requirements or they would not be paid.
For example a client wants to launch a new product and requires an event manager. Client wants TV coverage and Radio coverage etc. Service provider will be fully responsible for getting the TV and radio crews to the event, and ensure agreed broadcast times are met, and will pay them out of pocket. Service provider will be paid all costs(usually marked up) and a service fee after client is satisfied that they have fulfilled all the requirements of the PO.
Hi Ty,
in some cases yes, in some cases not. In your example, service provider is clearly a principal and event manager is just supplier.
But above and in my other articles, I brought up examples of opposite situation. S.
Good work.
On ”why does it matter”,you forgot to mention the tax implications eg Value added tax and company income tax resulting from the two approaches.
True, Ajibola, but in my opinion, I assume that cost is deductible and revenue is taxable – so yes, there is a tax impact, but net tax impact should be the same under both options. S.
yes same impact on CIT because cost is deductible. but VAT will be calc differently if revenue are presented diffently
So how will VAT be calculated in the second scenario?
I mean, does the agent have any obligation in the VAT system?
Also in some jurisdictions In case of taxable losses, minimum tax is payable on revenue at a certain percentage then in that case presentation of revenue in financial statement i.e. on gross or net basis become factor in tax payable.
Nothing could be simpler! Thanks as always for these clear and educative illustrations.
Thank you! 🙂